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when john mccain ran for president, of course, at one point in time chuck hagel and john mccain were the same kind of couple around here that lindsey graham and john mccain are. >> good amigos. >> very close. good friends. >> let's look now at a comment made by your former colleague, richard lugar of indiana. he had this to say about why republicans are obstructing hagel's nomination. >> senator hagel's main transgression is that he is a republican who has questioned policies that are sacred among most conservative senators. the intensity of opposition that the senator is encountering is grounded in the resentments of some conservatives inside and outside the senate who regard his independent thinking as political blasphemy for which he should not be rewarded. >> senator, you know the senate now. this is your second term. can you read it? is there going to be a vote to try to get cloture to end this filibuster when you come back on monday after this monday? >> well, that's what's so sad about this game. everyone voting today knows that chuck hagel is going to be confirmed. in fact, t
when john mccain ran for president, of course, at one point in time chuck hagel and john mccain were the same kind of couple around here that lindsey graham and john mccain are. >> good amigos. >> very close. good friends. >> let's look now at a comment made by your former colleague, richard lugar of indiana. he had this to say about why republicans are obstructing hagel's nomination. >> senator hagel's main transgression is that he is a republican who has questioned...
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we'll show you why john mccain says why republicans have it in for the nominee. >>> the karn vil cruise ship, at lost last returned to port last night with little power, few working bathrooms. there was a collective sigh of relief from the more than 3,000 passengers. but even leaving the "triumph" proved difficult. with one working elevators, it took fours to disembark. nbc's mark potter joins us live from mobile, alabama, passengers are off the ship, mark from talking to them what is the lasting image that you're going to have of this endeavor. >> well, it's very clear, they're very glad to be off that ship and on terra firma. people were along the ralgs cheering when it come to dock. most said that the living conditions after that engine fire just got increasingly worse and became unbearable. maybe said the worst time was right after the engine fire because they didn't know what was going on. they hadn't been fully informed and that scared them. as we heard at the beginning of the program, many people also praised the crew members saying they worked really hard to comfort the passenge
we'll show you why john mccain says why republicans have it in for the nominee. >>> the karn vil cruise ship, at lost last returned to port last night with little power, few working bathrooms. there was a collective sigh of relief from the more than 3,000 passengers. but even leaving the "triumph" proved difficult. with one working elevators, it took fours to disembark. nbc's mark potter joins us live from mobile, alabama, passengers are off the ship, mark from talking to...
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john mccain, row wicker, lindsey graham. they all did it. senator graham says he does not want his filibuster today to be thought of as a filibuster even though that's what it is. he says he prefers to think of what he did is blocking the nomination because he wants to use it as leverage to get more information out of the administration on the president's birth certificate, i'm sorry i mean aliens in area 51. i'm sorry. i mean his thoughts about what happened in benghazi. what does hagel know about benghazi? nothing. he had nothing to do with it. but lindsey graham is filibustering his nomination over it anyway. since chuck hagel had nothing to do with it substantively, why block his nomination instead of, say, the john kerry nomination which sailed through the senate? don't know. why not? wrecking stuff is fun, maybe? hulk smash. the guy who the republicans waited to spring this on for the first time in our nation's history to break all precedent is a former republican senator from a red state, a decorated and wounded combat veteran nominat
john mccain, row wicker, lindsey graham. they all did it. senator graham says he does not want his filibuster today to be thought of as a filibuster even though that's what it is. he says he prefers to think of what he did is blocking the nomination because he wants to use it as leverage to get more information out of the administration on the president's birth certificate, i'm sorry i mean aliens in area 51. i'm sorry. i mean his thoughts about what happened in benghazi. what does hagel know...
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and you have people like lindsey graham and john mccain who claim to be patriots who care about the pentagon and claim to care about the military, but yet they're really showing a lot of pique here. if we don't get what they want out of the administration on a completely separate issue they're going to penalize. they're going to penalize the pentagon. and that just to me is really not mature. it's not playing grown-ups. it's just using political leverage for your own hobbyhorse. and this is an issue that the president and others should try to take to the public -- >> my point in this is it could have been avoided. this is what elections are about. you get to be in a position to chait rules of the senate. you can't worry about the next senate. that's how i view it. and what could happen. the rules of the senate are not as important as running the country when we've got some critical issues -- >> i think that's a perfectly legitimate position to take, ed. and you know, i see it from both sides. but you know, harry reid decided not to go nuclear, which this would have been. and you know, that h
and you have people like lindsey graham and john mccain who claim to be patriots who care about the pentagon and claim to care about the military, but yet they're really showing a lot of pique here. if we don't get what they want out of the administration on a completely separate issue they're going to penalize. they're going to penalize the pentagon. and that just to me is really not mature. it's not playing grown-ups. it's just using political leverage for your own hobbyhorse. and this is an...
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john mccain, by the way, broke his own rule and own supposed rule of not using filibuster on cabinet nominees. he's broken with the rule to stand with his sidekick, lindsey graham, afraid of a primary challenge, worried about his re-election in 2014. the only reason i can think of to delay this then guys when they said it's a fore gone, they, themselves are going to vote for cloture, is a fishing exhibition. what to they think they'll find in ten days? use it for ten more days of excruciating irrelevant argument about benghazi, something over which chuck hagel had nothing, no oversight, nothing to do with? it's irrelevant to his nomination. >> chris, it sounds like for mccain and graham, they want to drag it out. they don't even sound like they're looking for some smoking gun. >> i think one of the most important things for people, you know this better than i, one of the most important things for people to understand about the way the senate works and the filibuster works is that one way to look at a congress, a senate, 113th, is as a finite amount of legislating hours. let's say 5,0
john mccain, by the way, broke his own rule and own supposed rule of not using filibuster on cabinet nominees. he's broken with the rule to stand with his sidekick, lindsey graham, afraid of a primary challenge, worried about his re-election in 2014. the only reason i can think of to delay this then guys when they said it's a fore gone, they, themselves are going to vote for cloture, is a fishing exhibition. what to they think they'll find in ten days? use it for ten more days of excruciating...
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senator john mccain is why we brought that up, senator. he suggested yesterday that the hagel block runs deeper and he actually was bringing up the past, and we can play a bit of that sound. why don't we? >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was a republican he attacked president bush mercilessly and at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense, and was very anti his own party and people. people don't forget that. >> you may not agree with what senator mccain said there, but that's basically what appears to be a grudge match, and that's why we said grudge match with a question mark. when you listen to senator mccain, is he wrong? do you agree with him? >> well, actually, i agree with senator mccain that chuck hagel is not the right guy. i also agree with the washington post who said around the first of the year mr. president, don't pick chuck hagel. he is not the right guy for d.o.d. he is well to the left
senator john mccain is why we brought that up, senator. he suggested yesterday that the hagel block runs deeper and he actually was bringing up the past, and we can play a bit of that sound. why don't we? >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was a republican he attacked president bush mercilessly and at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense, and was...
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senator john mccain's latest gripe is personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly. at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very amti his own party and his own people. people don't forget that. >> people also don't forget that years after hagel's republican herecy, john mccane said this of the man in 2006. i would be honored to have chuck with me in any capacity. he'd make a great secretary of state. people have also not forgotten that this filibuster has nothing to do with chuck hagel and everything to do with a republican vendetta against the white house. >> all three of us said we're not going to go forward on the hagel nomination until they testify about what happened in benghazi. >> and while republicans now say this latest delay will give them enough time to decide about hagel, they continue to leave the door open to unspecified shan an begans. >> i'm confident in the next week, un
senator john mccain's latest gripe is personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly. at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very amti his own party and his own people. people don't forget that. >> people also don't forget that years after hagel's republican herecy, john mccane...
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this is john mccain the maverick. he got the nickname "the maverick" not after "top gun" but because he stood up against his party. now he's saying when you go against the party, you may suffer ultimately years later as in the case of chuck hagel. >> look, a lot of republicans, including mccain myself don't really consider hagel a republican anymore. it has a lot to do with the way he went after the iraq war back when iraq was the dominant issue in washington. remember, mccain was the chief proponent in the senate for the iraq war surge in 2007 and hagel was its biggest critic. >> but manu, how do they not consider him a republican anymore when it was john mccain who was nearly booed off stage when he brought up um grags refor -- immigration reform. and thus he abandoned the notion of a comprehensive reform there. does he identify with chuck hagel? both have seen the bitter pill they've had to swallow from their own party. >> look, relationships matter a lot in the senate. this is a situation where a republican has re
this is john mccain the maverick. he got the nickname "the maverick" not after "top gun" but because he stood up against his party. now he's saying when you go against the party, you may suffer ultimately years later as in the case of chuck hagel. >> look, a lot of republicans, including mccain myself don't really consider hagel a republican anymore. it has a lot to do with the way he went after the iraq war back when iraq was the dominant issue in washington....
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straight talk, john mccain, yesterday. ultimately, hagel's issues with his former gop colleagues are simply personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel, because when he was a republican, he attacked president bush, mercilessly, at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover. said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very anti-his own party and people. people don't forget that. >> there you go. a delay is never a good thing, because it does give hagel's opponents additional time to try to torpedo his nomination. the fact that hagel essentially got 59 votes, including four from republicans, suggest that he's likely to be confirmed when this vote comes up again on february 26th. the fact is hagel's going to be a weakened secretary of defense in all of this. is that damage temporary or permanent? yesterday also highlighted a growing problem with the gop, that they are dealing, and one many republicans outside of d.c. fret about. it's clear wh
straight talk, john mccain, yesterday. ultimately, hagel's issues with his former gop colleagues are simply personal. >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel, because when he was a republican, he attacked president bush, mercilessly, at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover. said that the surge was the worst blunder since the vietnam war, which is nonsense. and was very anti-his own party and people. people don't forget that. >> there you go. a...
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ahead, john mccain has a personal grudge and he's actually admitting it. and those screams you hear are coming from wall street. elizabeth warren gets to work and it's explosive. >>> nothing says changs like carl "meltdown" rove. bik show coming. stay with us: >>> have you joined the "politics nation" conversation on facebook yet? we hope you will. the committee hearing was a big hit. donna says there's a new sheriff in town. jane says she is what we needed for so long. jay says this is why i contributed to her campaign, even though i live in georgia. we've got more on warren and why wall street is scared already coming up later. but, first, we need you to come share your thoughts. please head over to facebook and search politics nation and like us to join the conversation that keeps going long after the show ends. humans. even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else co
ahead, john mccain has a personal grudge and he's actually admitting it. and those screams you hear are coming from wall street. elizabeth warren gets to work and it's explosive. >>> nothing says changs like carl "meltdown" rove. bik show coming. stay with us: >>> have you joined the "politics nation" conversation on facebook yet? we hope you will. the committee hearing was a big hit. donna says there's a new sheriff in town. jane says she is what we needed...
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thank you, ron reagan and john mccain warren. thanks for that reporting from chicago and new york. >>> up next, the culture wars from guns to gay marriage. different sides winning on different fronts i think, and this is "hardball," the place for politics. our first full team gathering! i wanted to call on a few people. ashley, ashley marshall... here. since we're often all on the move, ashley suggested we use fedex office to hold packages for us. great job. [ applause ] thank you. and on a protocol note, i'd like to talk to tim hill about his tendency to use all caps in emails. [ shouting ] oh i'm sorry guys. ah sometimes the caps lock gets stuck on my keyboard. hey do you wanna get a drink later? [ male announcer ] hold packages at any fedex office location. all stations come over to mithis is for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading
thank you, ron reagan and john mccain warren. thanks for that reporting from chicago and new york. >>> up next, the culture wars from guns to gay marriage. different sides winning on different fronts i think, and this is "hardball," the place for politics. our first full team gathering! i wanted to call on a few people. ashley, ashley marshall... here. since we're often all on the move, ashley suggested we use fedex office to hold packages for us. great job. [ applause ]...
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he endorsed john mccain as president. he went to the republican convention we are criticized, the democrat eck nominee barack obama and endorsed mccain and sarah palin. and when joe campaigned in 20080 with mccain, comes back to the senate and senate democrats make him the chairman of standing committee, contrast that with chuck hagel. 84% of americans for conservative action, voting record in his canner radio, voting for the bush tax cuts, voted for the war in iraq, voted against no child left behind but was a small government conservative, and republicans right now, particularly tea party, are not looking for converts like the democrats were with joe leiberman. they're looking for heretics. and they see in chuck hagel who never endorsed barack obama, was friendly with him, traveled with him, but didn't endorse him. they see this terrible heretic. and it's really, that is where the republicans are right now. they are looking for heretics instead of converts. and i think it's apparent in the tea party. but i think it's ap
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. >> and is john mccain now conceding this is all a grudge match? >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was a republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly, at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder sense the vietnam war, which is nonsense, and was very anti his own party and people. people don't forget that. >> the heroes of newtown. president obama pos thumously awards the medal to six people who died while rescuing the children. >> dawn hotsprung and mary serlach, vicky solo, lauren russo, rachel devino, ann marie murphy. they gave their lives to protect the precious children in their care. they gave all they had for the most innocent and helpless among us. that's who we honor today. the courageous heart, the selfless spirit, the inspiring actions of extraordinary americans. >> the triumph was no triumph. the carnival cruise ship finally reaches shore, and -- >> we didn't have water. we didn't have showers. we didn't have hot meals. >> it was lite
. >> and is john mccain now conceding this is all a grudge match? >> there's a lot of ill will towards senator hagel because when he was a republican, he attacked president bush mercilessly, at one point said he was the worst president since herbert hoover, said that the surge was the worst blunder sense the vietnam war, which is nonsense, and was very anti his own party and people. people don't forget that. >> the heroes of newtown. president obama pos thumously awards the...
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john mccain suggested this morning that frankly there's a lot of ill will towards hagel from when he was a senator. what do you see going on here? >> well, for republicans it was a choose your grievance. some republicans were upset that harry reid said he wasn't going to honor a hold. what you're seeing here from republicans is a play to make sure that they flex a little muscle so that the democrats understand that the president's agenda has to go through them and that's on guns, on immigration. i agree with david. i think this will get done but it's never great for a nominee to have to wait another week to hang out there and take shots from opposition. it's not a great place for them to be but i'm not worried that this is not going to get through but this is the flexing of the muscle by republicans in the senate for sure. >> okay. so hagel gets blocked at least for now. rand paul and others are threatening to block john brennan. susan rice didn't get to the nomination process. is this rocky road if that's how we want to describe it, david, does this hurt the president's credibility
john mccain suggested this morning that frankly there's a lot of ill will towards hagel from when he was a senator. what do you see going on here? >> well, for republicans it was a choose your grievance. some republicans were upset that harry reid said he wasn't going to honor a hold. what you're seeing here from republicans is a play to make sure that they flex a little muscle so that the democrats understand that the president's agenda has to go through them and that's on guns, on...
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. >> senator john mccain's response to politics, you played politics, too. >> in 1989 they filibustered or basically stopped him from coming to the floor of the senate. we didn't have a secretary of defense for three months. it didn't seem to bother harry reid or carl levin at the time. >> i want to bring in david nak can amura. >> hi, chris. >> what happened here? did the president misread how this was going to be? >> this has been something that he's dealt with for the past couple years. the white house thinks that republicans are purposefully trying to sort of bottle up not only these higher level appointees but lower level judges. it's not that they didn't expect it. we got an e-mail yesterday from senior white house officials saying, take a deep breath. it's going to happen. they are sort of trying to influence stories to make sure it doesn't take on a momentum of their own and go off the rails. it is a problem. you see the president during his state of the union address saying in terms of gun control and other votes that have come down the line, let's have a vote. let's not allow
. >> senator john mccain's response to politics, you played politics, too. >> in 1989 they filibustered or basically stopped him from coming to the floor of the senate. we didn't have a secretary of defense for three months. it didn't seem to bother harry reid or carl levin at the time. >> i want to bring in david nak can amura. >> hi, chris. >> what happened here? did the president misread how this was going to be? >> this has been something that he's dealt...
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john mccain is a traitor. he said he was a war criminal before they brought him back out of vietnam. people forgot about that. i do not know about senator graham. host: senator mccain defended the reputation of former senator hagel the other day. does that change your opinion at all? caller: i know he did. mccain is on both sides. from let's go to a clip the debate yesterday. this is carl levin, democrat of michigan. he talked about why he thinks the senate should move ahead on this confirmation vote. >> i think the continuation of what amounts to a filibuster, since 60 votes are required, is it too bad when there is a secretary of defense who is leaving to go back to california, and we very much need to have our new secretary of defense in place, given the circumstances in this world. we have a budget crisis in this country, where sequester is confronting us. that sequester will have a damaging effect on the defense department, on the men and women in uniform, and on programs, the equipment, the training that
john mccain is a traitor. he said he was a war criminal before they brought him back out of vietnam. people forgot about that. i do not know about senator graham. host: senator mccain defended the reputation of former senator hagel the other day. does that change your opinion at all? caller: i know he did. mccain is on both sides. from let's go to a clip the debate yesterday. this is carl levin, democrat of michigan. he talked about why he thinks the senate should move ahead on this...
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pressure from john mccain and others to do more to help the rebels. what kind of political transition is possible without russia buying in? he has been in office now a week. he has tried to talk to the foreign minister since the north korean test, and so far has not had that call returned. that would indicate that russia is somehow avoiding a closer relationship with the new secretary. >> i think russia wra certainly needs to be engaged. i don't think we know exactly where that conversation is at the moment, but i think, you know what, secretary kerry is doing is showing the leadership that's needed from the united states to try to push political transition. that is ultimately what is going to change the course in syria and coming forward with a plan, building some consensus around that, both within syria and in the international community, i think that's right the right first step in the middle east. >> great to see you. thank you for joining us today. >> coming up next, secretary term challenges. we'll talk to michael. stay with us. ition to taste g
pressure from john mccain and others to do more to help the rebels. what kind of political transition is possible without russia buying in? he has been in office now a week. he has tried to talk to the foreign minister since the north korean test, and so far has not had that call returned. that would indicate that russia is somehow avoiding a closer relationship with the new secretary. >> i think russia wra certainly needs to be engaged. i don't think we know exactly where that...
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graham-- were coming out of a meeting with republicans saying "we're satisfied in the case of john mccain and graham, request the answers we got about benghazi from the white house. we're satisfied now. but we don't think other senators have had enough time. they're not on the arms services commit tee so we'll vote to hold this up now, when we come back in ten days we'll vote yes. it's not blocking, we just want to slow down." >> warner: what were the motivations? you had reid taking it to a vote where it was predicted he would lose and republicans said yeah we'll vote for it in another ten days but not now. what are the politics here? >> on the republican side, the politics have shifted from the center of the three amigos on national security, jindsy graham john mccain and senator kelly ayotte from new hampshire. it's shifted away from them. they had questions about benghazi which had been a major political issue since before the election. those seem to be moving off the table now. there are senators on the right who are asking questions about chuck hagel's speeches over the years. what
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in 2008 john mccain swept every county. in 2004 george bush swept every county. oklahoma is the reddest place we've got in america. and republicans, you may have heard, like to think that they do not think much of the policy ideas of barack obama. which is why it was so interesting to hear the two states that president obama mentioned as models when he announced his state of the union plan for preschool. >> tonight i propose working with states to make high-quality preschool available to every single child in america. [ applause ] in states that make it a priority to educate our youngest children, like georgia or oklahoma, studies show students grow up more likely to read and do math at grade level, graduate high school, hold a job, form more stable families of their own. >> president obama took that proposal on the road, visiting a prek class, pre-kindergarten class in decatur, georgia. he played a game of i spy with the kids there and noticed the magnifying class glancy drew style. he had phonics. he did the kinds of things you do in pre-k if you have pre-k whe
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you heard it with john mccain. this is about the inside the beltway chamber -- where words ricochet back and forth. they listen to themselves. they're playing a game where harry reid against mitch mcconnell. the chess game continues unabated. harry reid could have broken the game over. >> john: mccain was candid saying we're punishing this guy for going against the bush administration. >> that's what they call gaffe in washington where you tell the truth and reveal what people are really thinking because what chuck hagel had done while bush was president was tell the truth. you can debate the surge and military issue aside but calling george bush the worst president since herbert hoover, 80% of the public at some point would have agreed with that. president obama's entitled to his secretary of defense. game over. >> john: it's incredibly historic. never happened before. what does this say about the likelihood of pushing any kind of legislation through the house or senate? >> if you go back to the state of the union
you heard it with john mccain. this is about the inside the beltway chamber -- where words ricochet back and forth. they listen to themselves. they're playing a game where harry reid against mitch mcconnell. the chess game continues unabated. harry reid could have broken the game over. >> john: mccain was candid saying we're punishing this guy for going against the bush administration. >> that's what they call gaffe in washington where you tell the truth and reveal what people are...
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>> but they are not the abusers, they are the enablers and the abusers are john mccain and people who don't want -- it sounds like rhetoric, literally don't want the post filled at the pentagon because of their grudges. >> julian, the senate will take up mr. hagel's nomination when it reconvenes in ten days atime but i want to bring in something from richard hass. here he is with our own joe scarborough. >> we're hearing in the end most likely he's going to pass and be secretary of defense, so why hold him up over a recess when the pentagon desperately needs somebody at the helm? >> because in a funny sort of way, joe, it's exactly what mccain said. it's a way of getting their pound of flesh. >> julian, pound of flesh. is that really what this is all about? given that our troops deserve a leader because they serve with every ounce of their bodies, they give their bodies. >> well, i don't know that they will get a pound of flesh and it is a rizable reason. politics is about picking good fights. this is a fight the republicans will lose and it's a bad fight and you wonder why after what
>> but they are not the abusers, they are the enablers and the abusers are john mccain and people who don't want -- it sounds like rhetoric, literally don't want the post filled at the pentagon because of their grudges. >> julian, the senate will take up mr. hagel's nomination when it reconvenes in ten days atime but i want to bring in something from richard hass. here he is with our own joe scarborough. >> we're hearing in the end most likely he's going to pass and be...
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mccain was here saying he thinks we would be approved. he wouldn't vote for him but he would be approved. the upshot being that what happens is most nominees withdraw. they say it's not worth it and to save further embarssment they go quietly into the night, would he? >> one of two things, either he'll withdraw -- maybe the white house says this is also a distraction from the president's mission. we think it's a good idea if you withdraw. if he does, there are two candidates behind him. number two at the defense department, ash carter and michelle flowknow. both very well respected. say he does get confirmed. he's a weak secretary of defense. he's going to have two major jobs that the president wants him to do. one, cut defense and deal with the united states military, deal with the generals. make sure they're onboard and, number two, go up to capitol hill and let the congressmen and senators know we may cut a base in your district, we may shut down an assembly line but we want you to go where it. you have a weak secretary of defense who
mccain was here saying he thinks we would be approved. he wouldn't vote for him but he would be approved. the upshot being that what happens is most nominees withdraw. they say it's not worth it and to save further embarssment they go quietly into the night, would he? >> one of two things, either he'll withdraw -- maybe the white house says this is also a distraction from the president's mission. we think it's a good idea if you withdraw. if he does, there are two candidates behind him....
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>> well, let me now defend john mccain a bit on that front. i disagree with him holding up chuck hagel for personal reasons, and i made that very clear off the top of the show. certainly with big defense cuts coming and with 66,000 troops in afghanistan. but this is the way the united states senate works. and it's the way the houseworked as well. if you had somebody on the house floor, and we saw this, going on the floor time and time again and rubbing people -- it's one thing to oppose a bill. >> right. >> it's one thing to oppose a war. it's one thing to oppose a surge. but chuck hagel seemed to relish in the great publicity he was getting by rubbing president bush's nose in it, by rubbing john mccain's nose in it, by rubbing his republican colleagues' nose in it. he was acting self-righteous and like he was the only holy man in washington, d.c. i'm not, again, defending what the republicans are doing today, but i think whether you talk to carl or anybody else, this is the way washington works. i said it about ted cruz. ted cruz is going to
>> well, let me now defend john mccain a bit on that front. i disagree with him holding up chuck hagel for personal reasons, and i made that very clear off the top of the show. certainly with big defense cuts coming and with 66,000 troops in afghanistan. but this is the way the united states senate works. and it's the way the houseworked as well. if you had somebody on the house floor, and we saw this, going on the floor time and time again and rubbing people -- it's one thing to oppose a...
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. >> mostly because a handful of gop senators who said they wouldn't block hagel, like john mccain, reversed themselves. demanding next week's senate recess to study the nomination and ask for questions. >> i think during the break, it is sufficient time to get any additional questions answered, and i will vote in favor of cloture on the date we get back, and i believe my colleagues would also -- a number of my colleagues would do the same. >> another vote to try to stop the hagel filibuster is already on the schedule a little less than two week from now. hagel should be confirmed as the next defense secretary after a very tough time from former colleagues in the senate. >>> home at last. the 4,200 people stranded on that crippled carnival cruiseship are on land. "triumph" docked around 10:00 p.m. eastern time and for several hours after that passengers came streaming off, one by one, many priaising the crew. >>> the former disgraced san diego mayor has sut a deal to repay $2 million she allegedly stole from her late husband's charity. maureen o'conner gambled away over $1 million when she r
. >> mostly because a handful of gop senators who said they wouldn't block hagel, like john mccain, reversed themselves. demanding next week's senate recess to study the nomination and ask for questions. >> i think during the break, it is sufficient time to get any additional questions answered, and i will vote in favor of cloture on the date we get back, and i believe my colleagues would also -- a number of my colleagues would do the same. >> another vote to try to stop the...